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ROTunes Beta released

Posted by Andrew Poole on 21:43, 16/3/2005 | ,
 
Paul VigayAfter a couple of weeks of tinkering, everyone's favourite RISC OS personality, (no, not Peter Naull's) Paul Vigay, has released the first beta release of his ROTunes front end for AMPlayer.

"Well, I thought I'd better get around to uploading something people can download", Paul says on his weblog, "Otherwise I'll be playing around with it and tweaking things for weeks. I'm a bit like that."

Since Paul last showed the world a screenshot of ROTunes, he's added a few new things, such as a dual volume control which allows you to quickly switch between two pre-defined volume levels - handy if the phone rings.

As this is a beta release, Paul has asked for any feedback regarding the program, and suggests you read the Help file first so that you know what things are known about and on the todo list. You can see a screenshot of the latest version of ROTunes here.

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  ROTunes Beta released
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Martin Wynn Message #93392, posted by Mart at 21:54, 16/3/2005
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I think you had better remove the apostrophe from the other 'P' persons name otherwise you will not be his fave person! Oops! ;-)
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Andrew Poole Message #93393, posted by andypoole at 21:56, 16/3/2005, in reply to message #93392

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Meh, I don't think I'm his favourite person anyway ;)
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Paul Vigay Message #93394, posted by pvigay at 21:58, 16/3/2005, in reply to message #93393

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And remove that photo, or you won't be my favourite person either! :)
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Andrew Poole Message #93395, posted by andypoole at 21:59, 16/3/2005, in reply to message #93394

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I didn't realise I was yours :oP
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Paul Stewart Message #93396, posted by sa110_mk at 19:25, 17/3/2005, in reply to message #93395
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Well, sofar I prefer the MyTunes interface. ROTunes is a bit on the large side.
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Andrew Flegg Message #93397, posted by Jaffa at 20:08, 17/3/2005, in reply to message #93396
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Yay! And I was thinking that once ROTunes was released, no-one would want to use MyTunes anymore.

Nice to know at least one person is still going to use MyTunes (at the moment at least). I'll have to try and pry myself away from my shiny new Mac mini to get a new release out :)

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Andrew Duffell Message #93398, posted by ad at 22:46, 17/3/2005, in reply to message #93397
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I have found the verticle scroll bar in ROTunes is offset too far to the right by half its width for some reason.
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Andrew Poole Message #93399, posted by andypoole at 22:57, 17/3/2005, in reply to message #93398

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AndrewD: You obviously didn't read the help file, like you were told to...
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Andrew Duffell Message #93400, posted by ad at 11:50, 18/3/2005, in reply to message #93399
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I did, and didn't see anything...?
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Andrew Poole Message #93401, posted by andypoole at 11:59, 18/3/2005, in reply to message #93400

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OK, read the bit about redraw code.. Then remember that it /is/ a beta version, and that Paul has mentioned the toolsprite width bug many times. Then go sit in the corner and be quiet with a "D" hat on for a while.
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Andrew Duffell Message #93402, posted by ad at 12:27, 18/3/2005, in reply to message #93401
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It happens when I don't shrink the window, i.e it is like that when I first load ROTunes.
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Andrew Poole Message #93403, posted by andypoole at 12:30, 18/3/2005, in reply to message #93402

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Yes. Like I said, Paul has known about this and has pointed it out several times. FFS, if you're really upset by it, don't use it. Simple :)
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Andrew Duffell Message #93404, posted by ad at 14:08, 18/3/2005, in reply to message #93403
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I'm not bothered about it. I was simply pointing out a bug. TBH, I'm not going to use any of these iTunes clones until they do a fair but more than they do at the moment, but they do look very promising.
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fwibbler Message #93405, posted by fwibbler at 19:47, 18/3/2005, in reply to message #93404
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I must admit, I don't see what all the fuss is about with these iTunes players. Surely all people want to do is dump a load of MP3s into a player and listen to the music and AMPlayer does that fine. Or am I just being a bit of an old fart again?
Cheers!
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Paul Stewart Message #93406, posted by sa110_mk at 13:20, 21/3/2005, in reply to message #93405
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I suppose fwibbler, in a way your correct. All we wanna do is dump mp3's in and play. I used to the risc os !AMP (at least think that's the name). However I found it took along time to load the playlist, whereas !MyTunes loads it very quickly. Still needs polishing off, but it works okay. It is now my MP3 player.
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Andrew Flegg Message #93407, posted by Jaffa at 08:51, 24/3/2005, in reply to message #93406
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In terms of polishing off MyTunes, v0.07 has the following: bug fixes; better handling of super-long paths; controls which accurately reflect player status; better heuristics if not using ID3 tags; better font handling ensuring track listing should always render properly; logarithmic volume control; ...
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Paul Vigay Message #93408, posted by pvigay at 09:49, 24/3/2005, in reply to message #93407

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In reply to AndrewD, that's my fault. I have mini toolsprites for my desktop, so I amended the redraw code accordingly. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be a way of reading the width of the default toolsprites (I've tried various combinations of SpriteOp with the Rom sprites but to no avail!). I'll probably make it a user-configurable option, but the default will be reset to the standard RISC OS toolsprites rather than my custom ones.

v0.03 (nearing release) features improved library indexing, positioning within a track, dual volume controls (useful for a single click to lower volume if phone rings) and a number of other little tweaks!

With reference to just playing back MP3s in a directory, sure! The main reason for writing ROTunes was for my own use, as I happen to like the way iTunes works, and allows random play of albums or songs (rather than just sequentially working through a directory). At the end of the day, I'm all for choice, so the more players the merrier! :-)
As it's freeware, it's entirely up to personal preference whether you like it or not :-)

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Andrew Flegg Message #93409, posted by Jaffa at 10:04, 24/3/2005, in reply to message #93408
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pvigay: in terms of reading width of toolsprites; you can (IIRC) make two separate calls: one to find the size of the window on screen (including the toolsprites), and another to find the visible work area (excluding the toolsprites).

Subtract them and you can find the width and height of the toolsprites.

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