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VirtualRiscPC released for Mac OS

Posted by Andrew Duffell on 12:22, 17/5/2007 | ,
 
Virtual RPC Mac"VirtualAcorn are delighted to announce that as part of our beta product testing scheme a limited number of VirtualRPC-AdjustSA products suitable for use on G4 and G5 PowerPC Apple Macintosh computers are now available."
 
http://www.virtualacorn.co.uk/products/vrpcadsamac.htm
 
  VirtualRiscPC released for Mac OS
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  Aaron (14:45 17/5/2007)
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Peter Howkins Message #102248, posted by flibble at 12:38, 17/5/2007
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Congratulations, only 2.5 years after you demoed it.
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Jason Tribbeck Message #102250, posted by tribbles at 14:19, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102248
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Shame it's not a UB release - I would've been very tempted to get it if it was...
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Aaron Timbrell Message #102251, posted by Aaron at 14:45, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102248
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Congratulations, only 2.5 years after you demoed it.
I aplogise for the delay. As everyone knows I haven't been very well and have been devoting my time to getting RISC OS 6 delivered to users.

P.S. It's 2 years (it was shown at Wakefield 2005 as a proof of concept).
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Peter Howkins Message #102255, posted by flibble at 15:49, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102251
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(it was shown at Wakefield 2005 as a proof of concept).
My mistakes, it was the Linux version that was demoed 2.5 years ago.
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Adam Lloyd Message #102256, posted by adamlloyd at 16:35, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102255
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(it was shown at Wakefield 2005 as a proof of concept).
My mistakes, it was the Linux version that was demoed 2.5 years ago.
You what? Linux version... what release would that do you would have to make about three versions...
[EDIT] I meant not all things made for Fedora, work for Ubuntu and so on (is that more understandable?)
(could be wrong about VRPC though)



[Edited by adamlloyd at 16:48, 17/5/2007]
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Andrew Flegg Message #102259, posted by Jaffa at 16:43, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102248
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And after I'd just sold my G4 Mac mini to upgrade to a nice shiny AMD64 Ubuntu box. Admittedly, it dual boots to OS X, but this is PPC only and Ubuntu's shinier.

It's also a little disappointing to see that the active group of beta testers for the original Windows version hasn't been used for any of the later versions. I know I'd've been happy to test both Mac and Linux versions - and that could only have reduced the time to market.
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Andrew Duffell Message #102261, posted by ad at 17:09, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102256
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(it was shown at Wakefield 2005 as a proof of concept).
My mistakes, it was the Linux version that was demoed 2.5 years ago.
You what? Linux version... what release would that do you would have to make about three versions...
[EDIT] I meant not all things made for Fedora, work for Ubuntu and so on (is that more understandable?)
(could be wrong about VRPC though)
...or just do a Dell, and produce a version for *ubuntu?
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Andrew Poole Message #102263, posted by andypoole at 18:42, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102261

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(it was shown at Wakefield 2005 as a proof of concept).
My mistakes, it was the Linux version that was demoed 2.5 years ago.
You what? Linux version... what release would that do you would have to make about three versions...
[EDIT] I meant not all things made for Fedora, work for Ubuntu and so on (is that more understandable?)
(could be wrong about VRPC though)
...or just do a Dell, and produce a version for *ubuntu?
Or what most other people do, and produce a version that isn't distro-dependant tongue
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Paul Vigay Message #102268, posted by pvigay at 21:32, 17/5/2007, in reply to message #102263

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Perhaps I ought to auction off my Powerbook G4 at Wakefield.... ;-)
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John Hoare Message #102276, posted by moss at 09:44, 18/5/2007, in reply to message #102268

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I have to say, if there's one thing I miss using my Iyonix for, it's graphics work.

Once an Intel version arrives, I'll probably buy it just for that...
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Simon Wilson Message #102286, posted by ksattic at 16:57, 18/5/2007, in reply to message #102250
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Shame it's not a UB release - I would've been very tempted to get it if it was...
Agreed. Is there a technical reason why it is PPC only, perhaps because of JIT re-compilation?
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Mo McRoberts Message #102290, posted by nevali at 00:36, 19/5/2007, in reply to message #102276
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As an ex-RISC OS user who primarily uses Macs, I'd like to congratulate those involved in producing a product that I'm unable to use and have no intention of purchasing.

£120 for a beta that doesn't work on the current generation of the hardware? Double-ewe tee eff.

Apparently the reasoning for the PPC release is that the PPC JIT needs the most testing whilst the Intel JIT is considered stable.

If that justification makes sense to anybody, I'll eat my hat.
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Mo McRoberts Message #102291, posted by nevali at 00:43, 19/5/2007, in reply to message #102263
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(it was shown at Wakefield 2005 as a proof of concept).
My mistakes, it was the Linux version that was demoed 2.5 years ago.
You what? Linux version... what release would that do you would have to make about three versions...
[EDIT] I meant not all things made for Fedora, work for Ubuntu and so on (is that more understandable?)
(could be wrong about VRPC though)
...or just do a Dell, and produce a version for *ubuntu?
Or what most other people do, and produce a version that isn't distro-dependant tongue
most people accomplish that by releasing open source software. those who don't tend to run into myriad issues ranging from the minor (things installed to the wrong places) to the major (app doesn't work because of runtime library changes).
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Jason Togneri Message #102292, posted by filecore at 05:30, 19/5/2007, in reply to message #102290

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£120 for a beta that doesn't work on the current generation of the hardware? Double-ewe tee eff.

Apparently the reasoning for the PPC release is that the PPC JIT needs the most testing whilst the Intel JIT is considered stable.
Didn't you mean, "Apparently the reasoning for the pee pee see release is that the pee pee see jay eye tee needs the most testing whilst the Intel jay eye tee is considered stable"?

Seriously though, wink, I agree. It's the sort of beta-tested crap that's always being put onto the market just to make money faster, rather than properly tested first - and I'm meaning big companies here (grr, Logitech Setpoint) and not just small independent developers who generally at least have the courtesy to label their betas as betas. It's annoying.

EDIT: Incidentally, I have some issues with this picture - first, that keyboard. Why? I don't like keyboards without anything other than keys; you have to have somewhere to rest your hand. I'm a fan of minimal, but not Apple's sort of mental-asylum minimal. Secondly, that computer - if I wanted my computer to look like a biscuit tin, surely I'd just get a mini-ATX or even ITX board and, well, build it into a biscuit tin? Having said that, however, my Windows PC does look like a rather small fridge.

[Edited by filecore at 05:36, 19/5/2007]
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Steve Message #102293, posted by stevek at 06:16, 19/5/2007, in reply to message #102292
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It requires OSX 10.4 too. That means an OSX upgrade for me too! Better start saving my pennies.
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Mo McRoberts Message #102295, posted by nevali at 07:44, 19/5/2007, in reply to message #102292
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EDIT: Incidentally, I have some issues with this picture - first, that keyboard. Why? I don't like keyboards without anything other than keys; you have to have somewhere to rest your hand. I'm a fan of minimal, but not Apple's sort of mental-asylum minimal.
I actually have the Bluetooth version of that keyboard on my desk at work; it's a lot nicer to use than it looks. In fact, it's one of the best keyboards I've used smile
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Jason Togneri Message #102297, posted by filecore at 07:58, 19/5/2007, in reply to message #102295

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It's white with nothing but the actual keys! Sounds like it was designed for a mental asylum if you ask me. I don't think I'd like the sharp drop-off at the bottom (or the lost finger-resting places at the edges), because I'm too comfortable with my current keyboard smile
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Phil Mellor Message #102298, posted by monkeyson2 at 09:29, 19/5/2007, in reply to message #102292
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EDIT: Incidentally, I have some issues with this picture - first, that keyboard. Why? I don't like keyboards without anything other than keys; you have to have somewhere to rest your hand. I'm a fan of minimal, but not Apple's sort of mental-asylum minimal.
No, the problem with that keyboard is that you can see all the crumbs and muck collected below the keys. It's transparency gone mad!

Secondly, that computer - if I wanted my computer to look like a biscuit tin, surely I'd just get a mini-ATX or even ITX board and, well, build it into a biscuit tin?
Are you mad? The Mac Mini looks lovely. My external hard drive is bigger. And it's so small and quiet and cool that you can stick it anywhere if you don't want to look at it.

Actually, I'd love a Mac Mini biscuit tin. Mmmm, biscuits!
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Paul Morrison Message #102524, posted by Paul M at 07:48, 30/5/2007, in reply to message #102292
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Before we go to far into fantasy land
1. It works! I have RiscOS on a cool, reliable lap-top.
2. It only works for a limited range of products a bigger range than just a RiscPC. The same issues have caused grief to a lot of Mac users who have legacy software for OS9. Classic will not run on the newest intel models.
3. You need Tiger ~ wakey, wakey, you probably need Tiger anyway.
4. There is now such a small customer base that we have to accept beta testing.
Regards to all
Paul
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