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The Icon Bar: General: Come on David name and shame the eejit of Acorn Antiques
 
  Come on David name and shame the eejit of Acorn Antiques
  MikeCarter (08:09 19/7/2010)
  nunfetishist (10:11 19/7/2010)
    asm1 (11:25 19/7/2010)
      nunfetishist (12:06 19/7/2010)
        asm1 (13:23 19/7/2010)
          nunfetishist (08:51 20/7/2010)
            asm1 (08:58 21/7/2010)
            CJE (15:37 2/8/2010)
              trevj (18:05 2/8/2010)
              flibble (20:47 2/8/2010)
                Ron.B (21:18 2/8/2010)
                  asm1 (00:24 3/8/2010)
                    nunfetishist (09:27 3/8/2010)
                      Soereboe (09:57 3/8/2010)
                        nunfetishist (09:59 3/8/2010)
                          Soereboe (10:32 3/8/2010)
                      asm1 (21:05 11/8/2010)
                CJE (09:14 3/8/2010)
 
Mike Message #114843, posted by MikeCarter at 08:09, 19/7/2010
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The coward doesn't seem to want to come out from the shadows, so why not push him out in the open yourself?
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Rob Kendrick Message #114844, posted by nunfetishist at 10:11, 19/7/2010, in reply to message #114843
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The coward doesn't seem to want to come out from the shadows, so why not push him out in the open yourself?
Why does it matter? It's not as if anybody is losing any tangible amounts of cash, and people who wouldn't buy those CDs in any event get to play with some ancient software. Most of the stuff appears to be compilations of other people's work. I don't see the problem in distributing it like that.
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Andrew Message #114845, posted by asm1 at 11:25, 19/7/2010, in reply to message #114844
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http://acornantiques.org.uk/

If this guy and the guy doing the uh torents are one and the same, then as Rob says above, why does it matter? OOOooh I can either buy the Acorn user CD for more than the magazine cost me back in the day, or download it via torrent....

Big deal. Most of the apps on the discs are freeware/shareware anyway. I'm not condoning piracy by any means, but really, aren't there more important things to worry about? (starving children, etc)

Been and had a look, there are a couple of naughty things that shouldn't be there, but as I said... its not really THAT important is it ?

I'm sure Dave Holden, if that happens to be the Dave we are referring to, will be consoled by the fact that his Vpod stock has sold out in the last week - I'm waiting for one lol.

A few Acorn User CD's getting downloaded arent going to make APDL go bust now are they?

Yes we could argue the "principle" all day, to be honest I'd rather not, I have a life.

Why won't he name and shame ? If he's in the middle of legal proceedings or any are ongoing or pending then he's probably NOT ALLOWED to. In any case, why is it our business ?
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Rob Kendrick Message #114846, posted by nunfetishist at 12:06, 19/7/2010, in reply to message #114845
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I'm sure Dave Holden, if that happens to be the Dave we are referring to, will be consoled by the fact that his Vpod stock has sold out in the last week - I'm waiting for one lol.
Why not buy one direct from ST Developments? It's only 6 quid more expensive, and are more likely to actually have stock.
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Andrew Message #114847, posted by asm1 at 13:23, 19/7/2010, in reply to message #114846
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I'm sure Dave Holden, if that happens to be the Dave we are referring to, will be consoled by the fact that his Vpod stock has sold out in the last week - I'm waiting for one lol.
Why not buy one direct from ST Developments? It's only 6 quid more expensive, and are more likely to actually have stock.

Cos I'd clicked the order button at APDL. They were in stock, according to the email Dave sent me, but sold out last week lol. More are on the way he assures me so I don't mind waiting a few days. smile
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Rob Kendrick Message #114848, posted by nunfetishist at 08:51, 20/7/2010, in reply to message #114847
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Cos I'd clicked the order button at APDL. They were in stock, according to the email Dave sent me, but sold out last week lol. More are on the way he assures me so I don't mind waiting a few days. smile
I would have thought it always better to buy direct than through a third party; makes returns and such so much easier.
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Andrew Message #114854, posted by asm1 at 08:58, 21/7/2010, in reply to message #114848
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I would have thought it always better to buy direct than through a third party; makes returns and such so much easier.
Fair point although when I emailed yesterday to cancel, I was informed that mine had arrived and been dispatched so it is on its way smile
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Chris Evans Message #114922, posted by CJE at 15:37, 2/8/2010, in reply to message #114848
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Cos I'd clicked the order button at APDL. They were in stock, according to the email Dave sent me, but sold out last week lol. More are on the way he assures me so I don't mind waiting a few days. smile
I would have thought it always better to buy direct than through a third party; makes returns and such so much easier.
I believe there is normally greater benefit in buying from a dealer than direct from the manufacturer.

The pros for buying from a Dealer rather than Direct are:
The dealer pre sale can give a less biased opinion on a product
Additional support to the manufacturer often quicker and at times when the manufacturer may not be available e.g. Saturdays.
Additional protection: If the manufacturer disappears you have recourse to the Dealer, if the dealer disappears the manufacturer will normally provide warranty support.
Availability: The dealer may have stock when the manufacturer doesn't. Also the dealer may be able to ship quicker than the manufacturer. [1]
Accessories: The dealer may often be able to supply a range of third party related items.
Price: Sometimes the dealer is cheaper!

The possible cons:
The dealer may not have stock.
Returns through a dealer may take longer.
The price maybe higher
A few manufacturers/publishers offer a higher level of support to direct customers!

And as you can check if the Dealer has stock and his price that leaves very little downside to buying from a Dealer!

[1] The inverse law of shipping times: The smaller the number of products a company sells the longer they take to ship!
e.g. When Sibelius were selling less than ten products they used to take at least a week to ship 'in stock' items.
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Trevor Johnson Message #114923, posted by trevj at 18:05, 2/8/2010, in reply to message #114922
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I believe there is normally greater benefit in buying from a dealer than direct from the manufacturer...
Let's hear it for the dealers! Hip-hip!
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Peter Howkins Message #114926, posted by flibble at 20:47, 2/8/2010, in reply to message #114922
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I believe there is normally greater benefit in buying from a dealer than direct from the manufacturer.
I would certainly agree that there is a greater benefit for the dealer.
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Ron. Briscoe Message #114927, posted by Ron.B at 21:18, 2/8/2010, in reply to message #114926
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Well Andrew saved 6 quid by going through a dealer instead of buying direct.

message #114846 wink.
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Andrew Message #114930, posted by asm1 at 00:24, 3/8/2010, in reply to message #114927
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.... and then I got my CC bill shock
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Chris Evans Message #114931, posted by CJE at 09:14, 3/8/2010, in reply to message #114926
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I believe there is normally greater benefit in buying from a dealer than direct from the manufacturer.
I would certainly agree that there is a greater benefit for the dealer.
smile
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Rob Kendrick Message #114932, posted by nunfetishist at 09:27, 3/8/2010, in reply to message #114930
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.... and then I got my CC bill
Was it not 6 quid cheaper, then?
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Soereboe Message #114933, posted by Soereboe at 09:57, 3/8/2010, in reply to message #114932
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Customer support not included?
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Rob Kendrick Message #114934, posted by nunfetishist at 09:59, 3/8/2010, in reply to message #114933
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Customer support not included?
Was that the case if you bought an Iyonix from Castle?
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Soereboe Message #114936, posted by Soereboe at 10:32, 3/8/2010, in reply to message #114934
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Not for me, but i paid well enough for mine item to assume there would be
atleast some kind of helpfull advice -after the bill?

[Edited by Soereboe at 19:32, 3/8/2010]
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Andrew Message #114974, posted by asm1 at 21:05, 11/8/2010, in reply to message #114932
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.... and then I got my CC bill
Was it not 6 quid cheaper, then?

yeah I guess..... maybe the shock was to do with all the OTHER stuff I had built up on it lol big grin
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