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The Icon Bar: The Playpen: "Welsh Dragon Sausages" DO NOT CONTAIN DRAGON
 
  "Welsh Dragon Sausages" DO NOT CONTAIN DRAGON
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Jason Togneri Message #83299, posted by filecore at 18:06, 20/11/2006

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6159630.stm

Darn, and I was about to rush out and buy a pack. What'll it be next, warnings that fresh coffee may be hot, or that cigarettes might be bad for your health?

Sheesh.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #83300, posted by Phlamethrower at 18:15, 20/11/2006, in reply to message #83299
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I don't think anyone would imagine that dragon meat was being used but we would not want vegetarians to buy the sausages believing they were meat free.
I would have thought all vegetarians would assume sausages contain meat until proven otherwise. After all, a sausage is meant to be the innards of an animal minced up and then stuffed inside it's own small intestine.
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Ian Cook Message #83302, posted by ilcook at 18:17, 20/11/2006, in reply to message #83299
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or that cigarettes might be bad for your health?
They do have a warning. :devil:
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Jason Togneri Message #83306, posted by filecore at 18:21, 20/11/2006, in reply to message #83302

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They do have a warning. :devil:
So do coffee cups - never heard of one of the most well-known cases in 'compensation culture'? They'll sue you for anything in the USA. That was kind of my point.
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Ian Cook Message #83313, posted by ilcook at 19:54, 20/11/2006, in reply to message #83306
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So do coffee cups - never heard of one of the most well-known cases in 'compensation culture'? They'll sue you for anything in the USA. That was kind of my point.
What do you expect they're stoopid yanks.
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Jason Togneri Message #83315, posted by filecore at 20:04, 20/11/2006, in reply to message #83313

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What do you expect they're stoopid yanks.
http://www.bash.org/?4753
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Jeffrey Lee Message #83321, posted by Phlamethrower at 20:50, 20/11/2006, in reply to message #83315
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Maybe we can get trading standards onto Acorn Computers, as their computers clearly do not contain acorns.
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Phil Mellor Message #83346, posted by monkeyson2 at 22:54, 20/11/2006, in reply to message #83321
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I think Welsh Dragon Sausages would make a great monster of the week in Torchwood.
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Jason Togneri Message #83366, posted by filecore at 09:22, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83321

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Maybe we can get trading standards onto Acorn Computers, as their computers clearly do not contain acorns.
Hmm, I'm going to go out and buy an Angel Cake and maybe some Black Forest Gateau. I'm particularly looking forward to Jelly Babies :)
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Simon Challands Message #83375, posted by SimonC at 10:21, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83300
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I don't think anyone would imagine that dragon meat was being used but we would not want vegetarians to buy the sausages believing they were meat free.
I would have thought all vegetarians would assume sausages contain meat until proven otherwise. After all, a sausage is meant to be the innards of an animal minced up and then stuffed inside it's own small intestine.
That would be far too sensible. Anyone got a dictionary handy? What does it say a sausage is? Funny how I've never seen any stupid labels on Scotch eggs saying that they contain meat*, other than the ingredients list. It pisses me off that this sort of whinging about the obvious can continue without everyone just laughing at the idiots in charge and ignoring them.

* or at least miscellaneous unwanted bits of animal
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Phil Mellor Message #83376, posted by monkeyson2 at 10:28, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83375
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* or at least miscellaneous unwanted bits of animal
I think the animal in question would have wanted those bits. It probably felt quite attached to them.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #83378, posted by Phlamethrower at 10:42, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83376
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Should we complain that organic milk doesn't contain organs?
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Simon Challands Message #83380, posted by SimonC at 11:17, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83378
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Should we complain that organic milk doesn't contain organs?
What about the rest? What's food that's not organic supposed to be made of? Metal? Lumps of rock?
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VinceH Message #83401, posted by VincceH at 17:38, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83380
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Lion Bars, Mars Bars... <chompchomp> yeah <chomp> we should definitely <chompchomp> complain. <chomp> I'm sampling <chompchompchomp> them and <chomp> can't find any <chomp> signs <chomp> of lions <chompchomp> or bits of the fourth planet <chompchomp>.
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Jason Togneri Message #83408, posted by filecore at 19:59, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83401

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Lion Bars, Mars Bars... <chompchomp>
The plonker from the council's Trading Standards department responsible was on BBC radio yesterday (Monday) defending it. Jeremy Vine, the host, asked about Angel Cake and similar things; the guy's best answer was something like that they were "known brands" which had "established over time" in the "minds of the people" and therefore didn't count. Welsh Dragon Sausages, although they CLEARLY stated "contents: pork, leeks etc" on the packaging (as per regulations) weren't a "known brand" and therefore must have the word "PORK" in their name somewhere. He was so full of crap, it's brilliant to listen to :-)

Find Monday's show from the list on http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.shtml?http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio2_promo.shtml

I also recommend the Jeremy Vine show generally, BBC Radio 2 (88-91 FM), 12pm-2pm weekdays, it's a damned good 'topical issues'-type show with good music too.
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Simon Challands Message #83410, posted by SimonC at 22:22, 21/11/2006, in reply to message #83408
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I hoped he asked "Aren't sausages a known brand?" Plus OED definition of "sausage":

". a short cylindrical tube of mince pork, beef, etc. encased in a skin, typically sold raw and grilled or fried before eating." plus mentioned of sliced and cooked tubes of minced meat.

So you can't assume something is what the dictionary says it should be?
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Matthew Somerville Message #83417, posted by Matthew at 11:24, 22/11/2006, in reply to message #83410
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I'm a vegetarian, and I wouldn't be stupid enough to think such a sausage was vegetarian...

The fact some Mars bars are veggie and some aren't shows we have bigger problems than sausages that do list pork in the ingredients! :)
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richard cheng Message #83462, posted by richcheng at 15:17, 22/11/2006, in reply to message #83417

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I'm a vegetarian, and I wouldn't be stupid enough to think such a sausage was vegetarian...
There's gotta be some dumb vegetarians too, though. They need to be protected from Dragons!

The fact some Mars bars are veggie and some aren't shows we have bigger problems than sausages that do list pork in the ingredients! :)
What tickles me is that Walkers Smoky Bacon crisps are vegetarian, but their Cheese and Onion aren't.
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Phil Mellor Message #83463, posted by monkeyson2 at 15:18, 22/11/2006, in reply to message #83462
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but their Cheese and Onion aren't.
They are now. :)
http://www.vegsoc.org/press/pressarchive/2004/pr53.html

[Edited by monkeyson2 at 15:19, 22/11/2006]
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Matthew Somerville Message #83508, posted by Matthew at 01:14, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83463
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but their Cheese and Onion aren't.
They are now. :)
I'm pretty sure the ones I looked at very recently had an explicit "Not suitable for vegetarians" on it... :frown: Will have to check again.
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richard cheng Message #83529, posted by richcheng at 13:02, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83508

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but their Cheese and Onion aren't.
They are now. :)
I'm pretty sure the ones I looked at very recently had an explicit "Not suitable for vegetarians" on it... :frown: Will have to check again.
I've checked recently too, (within the past couple of months) and they weren't vegetarian then.
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Phil Mellor Message #83530, posted by monkeyson2 at 13:17, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83529
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but their Cheese and Onion aren't.
They are now. :)
I'm pretty sure the ones I looked at very recently had an explicit "Not suitable for vegetarians" on it... :frown: Will have to check again.
I've checked recently too, (within the past couple of months) and they weren't vegetarian then.
Well, I looked at a multipack of those new Walkers Baked, and all three flavours (Red, Green and Blue) said they were vegetarian. I still bought something else instead, mind.
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Jason Togneri Message #83532, posted by filecore at 14:34, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83530

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all three flavours (Red, Green and Blue) said they were vegetarian
Since when were "red", "green" and "blue" flavours?
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Phil Mellor Message #83533, posted by monkeyson2 at 14:51, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83532
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all three flavours (Red, Green and Blue) said they were vegetarian
Since when were "red", "green" and "blue" flavours?
You don't refer to crisp flavours by the colour of the packet? In answer to "What crisps do you want?", you've never answered "Red" ? Tsk!

Handy hints to help you remember:

Reddy salted
Salt and greenigers
Blues and onion
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Jeffrey Lee Message #83534, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:08, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83533
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Handy hints to help you remember:
Assuming your crisp manufacturers use the same colour scheme as Walkers :)
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Phil Mellor Message #83535, posted by monkeyson2 at 15:16, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83534
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Handy hints to help you remember:
Assuming your crisp manufacturers use the same colour scheme as Walkers :)
Well, yes, obviously. You need to be careful asking for a Green Walkers or a Blue Hula, for example.

Yet another example of companies creating incompatible standards. It's RISC OS USB all over again.
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Jason Togneri Message #83536, posted by filecore at 15:38, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83535

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Yet another example of companies creating incompatible standards. It's RISC OS USB all over again.
It's worse than that: over here, if you want milk for your cereal, the stuff in the RED cartons is the richest. Back in the UK, the red ones are 200% skimmed and taste like bad water. It's all back-to-front :-(
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Jeffrey Lee Message #83537, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:38, 23/11/2006, in reply to message #83535
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Yet another example of companies creating incompatible standards. It's RISC OS USB all over again.
Yes. I had to rebuild my crisp sorting machine 5 times before it worked with all colour schemes!
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Phil Mellor Message #102183, posted by monkeyson2 at 12:54, 14/5/2007, in reply to message #83417
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I'm a vegetarian, and I wouldn't be stupid enough to think such a sausage was vegetarian...

The fact some Mars bars are veggie and some aren't shows we have bigger problems than sausages that do list pork in the ingredients! smile
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Adam Lloyd Message #102197, posted by adamlloyd at 07:45, 15/5/2007, in reply to message #102183
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I'm a veggie

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