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The Icon Bar: News and features: Poll Update!
 

Poll Update!

Posted by fwibbler on 18:28, 21/5/2003 | ,
 
Ok, an update of the Iconbar poll is a feeble excuse for a news item, but I consider it to be an important one. A brief chat with RISC OS Ltd (and a quick read of a Drobe Launchpad article) has revealed that they are considering the release of a version of Select on ROM chips (just like the good 'ole days).

Public opinion may play a part in this (if nobody wants it, it won't happen) hence the update of the poll. Hopefully something more official will originate from RISC OS Ltd themselves.
 

  Poll Update!
  fwibbler (20:04 21/5/2003)
  Steve (20:14 21/5/2003)
    The Doctor (20:37 21/5/2003)
      Wookie (21:00 21/5/2003)
        The Doctor (21:52 21/5/2003)
          march. (21:53 21/5/2003)
            monkeyson2 (22:00 21/5/2003)
              pnaulls (22:06 21/5/2003)
                PHP Guru (22:38 21/5/2003)
                  thegman (10:13 22/5/2003)
                    fwibbler (11:28 22/5/2003)
                      KingBob (12:14 22/5/2003)
                        Anon (13:10 22/5/2003)
                          fud (15:34 22/5/2003)
                            Steve Turnboll's Psy (11:08 27/5/2003)
                              andypoole (17:28 27/5/2003)
                                takkaria (18:56 27/5/2003)
                                  The 'People's' Repub (09:39 28/5/2003)
                                    Tim's Fountain (09:40 28/5/2003)
                                      andypoole (16:51 28/5/2003)
                                        Phlamethrower (20:00 28/5/2003)
 
fwibbler Message #92249, posted by fwibbler at 20:04, 21/5/2003
fwibbler

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Ok, who's the Arthur user? Own up!
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Steve C Message #92250, posted by Steve at 20:14, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92249
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Thing is, if I were to buy this, would I end up with the same situation as currently happens with RISC OS 4 and Select, - i.e. once a newer version of Select is released than is on the ROMs, would I have to do the double-boot thing, or would Select in the ROMs be more intelligent?
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The Doctor Message #92251, posted at 20:37, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92250
Unregistered user I don't know.
I would hope that the ROM release would contain one version of the OS (EG: 4.36) and that the OS would continue to be updated and developed via the Select subscription scheme and further versions to be issued via this.
Maybe once every couple of years a ROM release could be made of the current version at that time.
I'm guessing here though.
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Wookie Message #92252, posted by Wookie at 21:00, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92251
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Why not produce a pcb with a flash rom on it so that you can update the OS as nessesary but still not have to softload it. Risc OS belongs in hardware not on a disc, the only OS that I'll use off a disc is Linux
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The Doctor Message #92253, posted at 21:52, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92252
Unregistered user Personally I don't have a problem with the OS being in ROM or on Disc.
The only reason I don't like Select as it stands is because of it's dual Boot 'feature' which wastes time.
This is a big issue for me. I want my machine to startup as quickly as possible.
Also, as my machine is a tad overloaded (podules, o'clocked CPU, etc..) and the Blitz interface I have fitted occasionally (not often) freezes my machine on startup.
With Select installed, there is twice as much chance of this happening. It becomes an annoyance.

Maybe this is the fault of my machine, but I've tried three different motherboards to no effect. The only cure is to remove the Blitz (and there's no way I'm going back to the internal IDE interface, it's too slow) so I went back to OS 4.04 and have stuck with it until now.

However, Select 3 has tempted me to try again. I shall remove the Blitz and try the Simtec interface and then install Select. Sometime soon I think.
Hmmm, I'm rambling again. Sorry.

Cheers!

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march. Message #92254, posted at 21:53, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92253
Unregistered user [7] i want select into my iyonix-flashrom.
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Phil Mellor Message #92255, posted by monkeyson2 at 22:00, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92254
monkeyson2Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler

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What about [8] No, I am happy with Select on disc ?
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Peter Naulls Message #92256, posted by pnaulls at 22:06, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92255
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I especially enjoy the extra '\'s in the text of the poll ;-)
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PHP Guru Message #92257, posted at 22:38, 21/5/2003, in reply to message #92256
Unregistered user stripslashes();
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Garry Message #92258, posted by thegman at 10:13, 22/5/2003, in reply to message #92257
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Posts: 65
I don't really care how it is distributed, however they've got to work on the price, £105 was OK, £150 is not. I was planning to get Select and Compo, with Select priced like it is, that's over £200. Maybe ROL could bundle some better software to take the sting out, Writer and Vector would have been OK 5-10 years ago but now would be an embarrasment.
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fwibbler Message #92259, posted by fwibbler at 11:28, 22/5/2003, in reply to message #92258
fwibbler

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Yes, I don't know where the '\' came from (I didn't put them there!) Damned annoying though. ):-(
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KingBob Message #92260, posted at 12:14, 22/5/2003, in reply to message #92259
Unregistered user Would Flash ROM require an extra pcb? I thought the original idea was to provide Risc OS 4 on Flash ROM anyway? It would seem like a good option if possible.
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Anon Message #92261, posted at 13:10, 22/5/2003, in reply to message #92260
Unregistered user The problem was that using Flash resulted in timing
problems, and (I believe) the carrier boards added
to the cost. I would have been ideal as a mechanism
for upgrades, of course, but sadly most RiscPCs were so old and "on the brink" already that the flash stuff was enough to push them over the edge.

In a way, it is a shame that Castle haven't done a sensibly priced "revamp" on the RiscPC motherboard. My own main machines are still RiscPCs despite owning
an Iyonix, and will continue to be. I'm actually
about to buy some kinetic upgrades for them, to extend
their life. Software reliablilty and compatibility
are absolutely top priority. A new mobo, especially
one with the OS in flash rom, would be the icing on
the cake. Of course, it won't happen, but I'm guessing that there are a LOT of RiscPC users who
would rather have a slightly tweaked RPC than a
flashy bleeding-edge 32bit one?

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fud Message #92262, posted at 15:34, 22/5/2003, in reply to message #92261
Unregistered user i'm an icon bar bitch
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Steve Turnboll's Psy Message #92263, posted at 11:08, 27/5/2003, in reply to message #92262
Unregistered user Here's a poll:

Scientology or Campanology? Which is best?

1. Former
2. Latter
3. Other: satanism
4. Other: Acorn User
5. Other: All-lah worhipping greaseballdom.

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Andrew Poole Message #92264, posted by andypoole at 17:28, 27/5/2003, in reply to message #92263

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[cough]http://www.cdgmid.org.uk[/cough]

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Andrew Sidwell Message #92265, posted by takkaria at 18:56, 27/5/2003, in reply to message #92264
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*cough*http://www.cdgmid.org.uk/towers/*cough*broken*cough*links*cough*
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The 'People's' Repub Message #92266, posted at 09:39, 28/5/2003, in reply to message #92265
Unregistered user Nice!
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Tim's Fountain Message #92267, posted at 09:40, 28/5/2003, in reply to message #92266
Unregistered user No, broken here.
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Andrew Poole Message #92268, posted by andypoole at 16:51, 28/5/2003, in reply to message #92267

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not broken here either
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Jeffrey Lee Message #92269, posted by Phlamethrower at 20:00, 28/5/2003, in reply to message #92268
PhlamethrowerHot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot stuff

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http://www.cdgmid.org.uk/towers/name.php just returns a blank page. And you've put 'Strikign' on the home page ;)
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