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The Icon Bar: News and features: RiscStation interview on MyRISCOS
 

RiscStation interview on MyRISCOS

Posted by Richard Goodwin on 16:11, 29/4/2002 | , ,
 
MyRISCOS have scored themselves an exclusive interview with Roy Heslop of RiscStation, with news (sort of) about the laptop and about designing RISC OS hardware. Some of it seems particularly pertinant after all that talk about the Omega...
 
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Anonymous Message #90878, posted at 16:57, 29/4/2002
Unregistered user Quoted from that MyRiscOS interview with Roy:
Re. the laptop:

"-Will there be a working model at Wakefield?"
"-Yes."

Sounds fairly definite, anyone believe it though?
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Guest Message #90879, posted at 17:08, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90878
Unregistered user "Where is RiscStation at with regards to the Evolution? It has been on your website for ages now without an update. --- It still requires about 6 months work funding."

So does that mean the the evolution project is not really dead?

Michael
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Anonymous Message #90880, posted at 17:18, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90879
Unregistered user It means if someone throws money at it, they'll do something with it. Duh. Remind you of anything?

Cheers,
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Ron
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RiscStation Software Message #90881, posted at 17:32, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90880
Unregistered user As the interview says, we WILL have a portable at Wakefield running RISC OS.

Over the Evolution, the board is at RiscStation, running Linux at the moment. With around 6 months worth of work (which will require funding), it would be available with RISC OS. The project is far from dead.

I can expand on the buying of consumables though...

USB printer cable, 15 UKP from Dixons, 3.99 from CTA
Bi-directional printer cable, 9.99 from Dixons, 3.50 from CTA
HP colour cartridge (DJ640) 29.99 Dixons, 24.99 CTA
(or 24.99 as a pack of 5 from Viking)

It just beggars the question why some RISC OS users still waste money going through Dixons (etc) when your local RISC OS dealer is usually cheaper and buying consumables directly funds development of software.
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Guest Message #90882, posted at 17:35, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90881
Unregistered user On a similar note, I bought an LCD (Iiyama AS4332UT) through Castle. As they don't stock this one they tested it worked on a RISC PC. They cahrged me the same price as Watford Electronics (renowned box-shifter, not so hot on service).....

MArk
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Guest Message #90883, posted at 17:37, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90882
Unregistered user RiscStation Software Support,

Similarly to Evolution... my high-speed x86 PC is here and running Windows/Linux at the moment. With some months of funding and work, it would be available with RISC OS. The project is far from dead.

See how RiscStation's Evolution story has NO substance?
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RiscStation Software Message #90884, posted at 18:46, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90883
Unregistered user Running RISC OS on the Evolution is not as far away as you would suspect. The ability to run RISC OS software within a Windows environment has been with us for quite a while... ever heard of Virtual Acorn ;-p
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Guest Message #90885, posted at 19:37, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90884
Unregistered user Of course, for that sort of money, you're not going to get a very good USB printer cable...
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Guest Message #90886, posted at 20:04, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90885
Unregistered user I can't help thinking this is a big marketing setup : isn't the person who did the "authorised 'leak'" in the newsgroups on the portable delay, the person answering the "RiscStation Software Support" mails and the interviewer 'bluebottle' in the MyRISCOS - Roy Heslop interview, all one and the same person ?

How independant is MyRISCOS in this story ?
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Mr Jake Monkeyson Message #90887, posted at 20:43, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90886
Unregistered user A very good point.
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Guest Message #90888, posted at 21:06, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90887
Unregistered user RiscStation Software Support, bluebottle and Paul Johnson are all one and the same. He's trying to hide himself to see more authentic. It's very sad.

Regardless of the true facts of the story, this is little more than poorly assembled propaganda.
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Guest Message #90889, posted at 21:12, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90888
Unregistered user Look, there's no RiscStation portable. Any portable they do show at Wakefield "running RISC OS" will merely be a standard PC laptop running an emulator. I feel a little angry at RS for perpetuating this nonsense and getting everyone's hopes up. Come on RS, just tell the truth because currently you're a laughing stock.
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mark quint Message #90890, posted at 22:06, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90889
Unregistered user *sigh*

RiscOS land has its fair share of pesimists doesnt it? :/
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Guest Message #90891, posted at 22:38, 29/4/2002, in reply to message #90890
Unregistered user Not to mention the land of RISC OS.
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Paul F. Johnson Message #90892, posted at 00:19, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90891
Unregistered user Poorly assembled propoganda eh...

We'll see...

Portable actually a PC running an emulator, well given legally you can't and that RedSquirrel no longer runs OS 4, then emulation seems highly improbable.

Am I bluebottle, yes.
Am I the one who does RSS, yes
AM I THE DOCTOR?
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Chris Williams Message #90893, posted at 00:41, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90892
Unregistered user Do you accept pizza for bribes though?

Chris
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Andy Wingate Message #90894, posted at 02:29, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90893
Unregistered user Otherwise, what about curry?
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Guest Message #90895, posted at 07:06, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90894
Unregistered user This isn't propoganda it is infact marketing. Good to see a number of companies actually fighting for our dosh! This is healthy!!

Just take a read of the Castle news release regarding the 100Mbit network card. Competition is a good thing and at last we are starting to see some. Part of this is getting "mind share" i.e. the more people talk about something the more people become interested. Let the gloves come off!

We need a couple of people to excite everyone! Go Paul J!

Things are certainly a lot more exciting that they were a month ago! Roll on Wakefield!

Cheers
Steve
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Guest Message #90896, posted at 07:49, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90895
Unregistered user Sorry, can't understand some of the comments here. I thought the Evolution is dead and now I'm supprised that there is still some hope. And I think a 'may be' is better than a definite 'no'.

Michael
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Guest Message #90897, posted at 10:07, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90896
Unregistered user Did Roy do what Jean Claude Van Damme did to that British interviewer once? ;-)
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Richard Goodwin Message #90898, posted at 11:04, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90897
Unregistered user I think the comments about propaganda and marketing are a bit naive - marketing and propaganda are the same thing, it's what you do with it that matters.

So what if the same person that works for RiscStation posted the interview? If it had been posted to the RS site, no doubt everyone would have still linked to it and read it. Or do you think that Roy's comments would be somehow substantially different if someone else had interviewed him (if that were possible)? No matter who does the interview, or who puts up "facts" from a press release, the fact remains that a company/personality is trying to get their point of view across to the public. That's how the system works. It's propaganda. Deal with it.

It may not be fashionable to say it, but more power to Paul for actually getting some info out there. People complain that RISC OS companies don't give out enough info, then when one does they complain again.
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Guy Inchbald Message #90899, posted at 11:14, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90898
Unregistered user From what RS say above, it appears that Evolution and the portable are just x86 Win boxes running a hardware emulator, on which an (appropriately negotiated) RISCOS sits.

Care to deny this, RS spokesperson?
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Guest Message #90900, posted at 13:10, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90899
Unregistered user No Roy did not fart loudly at the interview. He has manners.
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[mentat] Message #90901, posted at 13:14, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90900
Unregistered user Guy:

"Portable actually a PC running an emulator, well given legally you can't and that RedSquirrel no longer runs OS 4, then emulation seems highly improbable."

So, no, the idea really is for the portable to run RO natively - it's a baby RS7500 thingy type.

However, the only prototype we've yet to see runs windows. It'll be nice to see it running RISC OS properly... at wakefield, apparently. I hope, but I have doubts :(
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Guest Message #90902, posted at 13:29, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90901
Unregistered user When visiting RONWUG recently it was stated that they've had a portable PCB etc running on the bench for a while.

From what was also said, it seem the delays have been due to the case rather than any RiscStation specific hardware (reviews section at myriscos)

AJP
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Guest Message #90903, posted at 14:29, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90902
Unregistered user I still think the interview was more interesting.
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Richard Goodwin Message #90904, posted at 14:58, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90903
Unregistered user They have had to switch cases at least once IIRC
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RiscStation Software Message #90905, posted at 15:32, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90904
Unregistered user For the last time - I DO NOT WORK FOR RISCSTATION!

The software support address is run purely as a favour. It is not paid for in any way by Roy. I have never had a P60 from RiscStation either, nor a contract of employment.
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Richard Goodwin Message #90906, posted at 15:42, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90905
Unregistered user You do /do/ work for RiscStation, even if they don't technically employ you; therefore you work for RiscStation, at least for the purposes of this discussion.

Or should I stay off your side and not defend you in future? :)
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John Duffell Message #90907, posted at 16:39, 30/4/2002, in reply to message #90906
Unregistered user Indeed, you can do work without being paid for it, I have spent ages doing work for university, and they've never given me a P60 or anything, in fact I pay them!
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