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riscos.info - C for the masses

Posted by Richard Goodwin on 11:33, 28/3/2002 | , ,
 
Peter Naulls, he of the Unix porting and other initiatives, has launched his new riscos.info site.

The aim is to provide a comprehensive guide to C programming under RISC OS, with copious personal experience and discussions thrown in.

But that's not all - Peter's also taken over maintenence of lcc for RISC OS, a small, fast ANSI C compiler. This should give novices especially access to an easier to use free compiler that will work on almost any RISC OS machine.

Link: www.riscos.info
 
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Richard Goodwin Message #90544, posted at 11:34, 28/3/2002
Unregistered user Yes Peter, I'm a bit slow today, I'm busy doing some work on something else RISC OS related ;)
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John Hoare Message #90545, posted at 12:05, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90544
Unregistered user I've had a quick look (I'll have a proper look tonight) but this looks fantastic. Very useful! :-)
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[mentat] Message #90546, posted at 12:08, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90545
Unregistered user Bl00dy good idea! I expect I'll be making good use of that site from now on... :) Cheers, Peter!
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MarcoF Message #90547, posted at 13:42, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90546
Unregistered user good news, finally for a ROS programming newbie something really useful, since I am experienced c developer, I can't be bothered to try BasicV.. :D
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[mentat] Message #90548, posted at 14:42, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90547
Unregistered user Hmm, after saying how nice it is (and it is), it's not exactly what you'd expect to find at riscos.info, now is it? :-/
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Guest Message #90549, posted at 14:51, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90548
Unregistered user Shocking isn't it? Who in their right mind would put information on programming RISC OS on riscos.info.

What else would you expect to find on it?!
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Peter Naulls Message #90550, posted at 14:54, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90549
Unregistered user It clearly ought to be a pr0n site.

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[mentat] Message #90551, posted at 15:19, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90550
Unregistered user Exactly... :)
Err, no!

Don't take the piss you anony mouse coward ;).

And don't get me wrong, I like it, I think it's fine. But someone going to riscos.info might expect to find info about RISC OS itself. Which isn't /quite/ what there is.

[it wasn't a grumble, just a random comment!!!]
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Peter Naulls Message #90552, posted at 15:24, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90551
Unregistered user Maybe. But I don't see you (or anyone else) rushing to write content for such a site :-)

Besides, look at:

http://www.riscos.com/
http://www.riscos.co.uk/
http://www.riscos.org/
http://www.riscos.net/
http://www.riscos.org.uk/
http://www.riscos.me.uk/ (Iconbar)

All provide extensive information on RISC OS in
general. It'd be silly repeating it. I'm
sure everyone much prefers riscos.info's current
content.

Peter, riscos.info pr0n mast0r.
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[mentat] Message #90553, posted at 15:39, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90552
Unregistered user "But I don't see you (or anyone else) rushing to write content for such a site :-)"

You just haven't looked hard enough :P

"Besides, look at..."<snip>

Yes, they are there, but IMVHO none of them gives a decent picture of RO to genuine newbies. Not that I'm even saying such a thing is needed, but riscos.info would have been an ideal place for it. Note also that I'm not saying that you should change it, or that it's a bad place for the programming info.

"It'd be silly repeating it."

It's be nice for it to be done right for once, and somewhere appropriate.

--
I've said this before; I never repeat myself!

"Don't get me wrong!"
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Richard Goodwin Message #90554, posted at 16:02, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90553
Unregistered user Well, if someone writes a decent "About RISC OS" piece, I'll prominantly display it on the front of TIB and/or riscos.me.uk.

There, challenge issued. If I get more than one (hah!) we'll see what the best course of action is.
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James Shaw Message #90555, posted at 16:04, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90554
Unregistered user Just visited the site - and I am downloading GCC right now (at 80Kb/sec - hahaha!). I'm really pleased that each download will fit on a floppy disc - now I can take it home and give it a whirl.

I've already used EasyC/C++ and found it to be somewhat unstable. Many commands (esp. C++ ones) were not supported. Nevertheless, it is a valuable learning tool which has helped introduce me to the world of C/C++.

Thanks for a really great site, Paul!

ps. I'm /really/ looking forward to reading the section on C + Assembler ;-)
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Peter Naulls Message #90556, posted at 16:12, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90555
Unregistered user I'm Peter ;-)

If someone wanted to write a more comprehensive
piece on EasyC/C++ then I'd be quite happy to include it, especially regarding its development status.
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MarcoF Message #90557, posted at 16:13, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90556
Unregistered user i think you're referring to lcc.. you won't be able to fit the full gcc suite on 1 floppy..
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MarcoF Message #90558, posted at 16:15, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90557
Unregistered user oh, people who're talking about decent risc os introductions should take a look at:
http://www.cuci.nl/~pscheele/ACorner/folders.htm

woops, it is all in dutch.. well, time for a translation I guess. *grin*
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Peter Naulls Message #90559, posted at 16:17, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90558
Unregistered user ..maybe you should read a little more carefully ;-)


lcc will indeed fit on a floppy, but take a
look at the GCC archives. It is packed into
serveral archives precisely for the reason that
it can be transported on floppies.

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MarcoF Message #90560, posted at 16:25, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90559
Unregistered user okay okay.. doesn't fit on 1 single floppy.. there :)
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Guest Message #90561, posted at 16:56, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90560
Unregistered user Great idea - thanks for the hard work Peter.

By the way, I wonder what the status of the old CAUG material is these days ? It would be nice to have the stuff available on a web site.

Regards,

Max

CAUG = C Acorn User Group
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Guest Message #90562, posted at 20:17, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90561
Unregistered user riscos.info is a great idea. I'm already finding the content useful.
Snig-ug-bob.
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Dave Lawton Message #90563, posted at 23:36, 28/3/2002, in reply to message #90562
Unregistered user A little thought, a link, or (shock/horror) a links
page for those people who want more info on
RISC OS
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Guest Message #90564, posted at 00:53, 29/3/2002, in reply to message #90563
Unregistered user My C/C++ programming is strictly of the 'Hello
World' level. When it comes to using the
libraries, GUI etc I'm completely lost. I'd like
to be able to port some of the open source programs
so I think this is a great idea - I just might be
able to learn how to do so.

Gary






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Chris Williams Message #90565, posted at 10:37, 29/3/2002, in reply to message #90564
Unregistered user Gawd, does this mean I should finish EasyGCC? ;)

Chris
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Guest Message #90566, posted at 10:50, 29/3/2002, in reply to message #90565
Unregistered user Finish EasyGCC? Yep, and perhaps start on Visual
GCC :-)

Gary






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Jeffrey Lee Message #90567, posted at 12:25, 29/3/2002, in reply to message #90566
Unregistered user Looks like it could be handy.
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Guy Inchbald Message #90568, posted at 19:31, 29/3/2002, in reply to message #90567
Unregistered user How about making the index.html page a kind of general "hello there" page with the important links to riscos.foo sites, and a run-in to the main C programming home page?
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Tim Fountain Message #90569, posted at 20:26, 30/3/2002, in reply to message #90568
Unregistered user A general intro to RISC OS was meant to be the purpose of riscos.org, but that site seems to gone off at a bit of a tangent.
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Guy Inchbald Message #90570, posted at 20:35, 30/3/2002, in reply to message #90569
Unregistered user Oh, I get it. This is the RISCOS community. To be politically correct, any riscos.foo site must be off-topic. How naive of me ;o)
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Peter Naulls Message #90571, posted at 20:41, 30/3/2002, in reply to message #90570
Unregistered user There's now links on the page to general info sites :p

Anyway, the page has been substantially updated
since its launch, and will continue to be, so check back. And please, if you have anything to contribute to the site, it would be most welcome.

I've now had 100 lcc downloads - and not a single bug report (so far), so that's excellent too.

Maybe it just means people aren't using it ;-)
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[mentat] Message #90572, posted at 02:44, 31/3/2002, in reply to message #90571
Unregistered user Yep, everyone's downloaded it and then gone off to eat chocolate eggs and chase chicks.

Off topic! Off topic! Yeah... :)
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John Hoare Message #90573, posted at 20:30, 1/4/2002, in reply to message #90572
Unregistered user I can't overstate how useful this site is going to be when I get back to uni! Thanks Peter! :-)
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