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Andrew Message #109767, posted by andrew at 19:42, 8/4/2009
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Rimmer dead again? No Chochanski? Will this be explained?
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James Lampard Message #109776, posted by Lampi at 09:04, 12/4/2009, in reply to message #109767
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Does anyone care anymore? Really?
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Andrew Poole Message #109778, posted by andypoole at 09:49, 12/4/2009, in reply to message #109776

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Does anyone care anymore? Really?
Yes!
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Phil Mellor Message #109781, posted by monkeyson2 at 14:23, 13/4/2009, in reply to message #109778
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re: moss on the DwarfCasts - yes, I think it's just you. tongue

As someone who enjoys watching Red Dwarf when it's on, but who hasn't actually seen that much of it, and someone who hasn't seen Blade Runner either, nor Coronation Street for that matter... I liked it.

First episode could have been a bit tighter to account for the missing audience laughter (I didn't mind not having a laughter track, but I thought the early bunkroom scenes had too many long pauses where one should be), and it could have done with a quickj 'Next Time' teaser to overcome the chopped up nature of the shows.

Second and third episodes had lots of laughs for me.
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Andrew Poole Message #109782, posted by andypoole at 14:32, 13/4/2009, in reply to message #109781

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re: moss on the DwarfCasts - yes, I think it's just you. tongue

As someone who enjoys watching Red Dwarf when it's on, but who hasn't actually seen that much of it, and someone who hasn't seen Blade Runner either, nor Coronation Street for that matter... I liked it.

First episode could have been a bit tighter to account for the missing audience laughter (I didn't mind not having a laughter track, but I thought the early bunkroom scenes had too many long pauses where one should be), and it could have done with a quickj 'Next Time' teaser to overcome the chopped up nature of the shows.

Second and third episodes had lots of laughs for me.
^this.

The ad breaks could have done with at least a RD logo or something.. Particularly in episode one where it just literally flicked from RD to a Mitchell and Webb advert..

Overall, I liked it. I'll probably pick up the DVD when it's out to compliment the other eight RD DVDs on the shelf.

Andy.
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Phil Mellor Message #109783, posted by monkeyson2 at 14:43, 13/4/2009, in reply to message #109767
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Chochanski?
Oh, this requires a photoshopping of Peter Naulls and Chloe Annett, definitely. tongue
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Andrew Poole Message #109784, posted by andypoole at 15:00, 13/4/2009, in reply to message #109783

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Chochanski?
Oh, this requires a photoshopping of Peter Naulls and Chloe Annett, definitely. tongue
Well get on with it, then grin

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Andrew Message #109786, posted by andrew at 21:48, 13/4/2009, in reply to message #109782
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re: moss on the DwarfCasts - yes, I think it's just you. tongue

As someone who enjoys watching Red Dwarf when it's on, but who hasn't actually seen that much of it, and someone who hasn't seen Blade Runner either, nor Coronation Street for that matter... I liked it.

First episode could have been a bit tighter to account for the missing audience laughter (I didn't mind not having a laughter track, but I thought the early bunkroom scenes had too many long pauses where one should be), and it could have done with a quickj 'Next Time' teaser to overcome the chopped up nature of the shows.

Second and third episodes had lots of laughs for me.
^this.

The ad breaks could have done with at least a RD logo or something.. Particularly in episode one where it just literally flicked from RD to a Mitchell and Webb advert..

Overall, I liked it. I'll probably pick up the DVD when it's out to compliment the other eight RD DVDs on the shelf.

Andy.
Yes, how much effort would it have taken to add a title before the break.

The story was very much like Back to Reality. I thought the ending was quite good with Lister choosing to leave the hallucination and the surprise (for me) appearance of Kochanski.
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Mark Message #109787, posted by Mark76 at 23:47, 13/4/2009, in reply to message #109786
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Just watched all three parts again earlier.

I can appreciate the Blade Runner in-jokes now.
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Jason Togneri Message #109788, posted by filecore at 06:25, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109786

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I thought the ending was quite good with Lister choosing to leave the hallucination and the surprise (for me) appearance of Kochanski.
Awww. I know the thread title said 'spoiler' but I looked and the first few posts (over the frist few days) didn't spoil much, until this one. That's a shame. I haven't watched it yet - you didn't need to make it such a blatant spoiler Crybaby
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Mark Message #109789, posted by Mark76 at 07:30, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109788
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That's where spoiler tags (yes they do exist) come in handy.
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Phil Mellor Message #109790, posted by monkeyson2 at 10:58, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109789
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That's where spoiler tags (yes they do exist) come in handy.
They do?
Spoiler
Really?
shock

The word 'spoiler' in the thread title kinda implies it too - I didn't read it until after I'd watched it all.

Once it's been broadcast it's fair game, surely?
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Jason Togneri Message #109791, posted by filecore at 12:15, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109790

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The word 'spoiler' in the thread title kinda implies it too
I already conceded that one big smile

Once it's been broadcast it's fair game, surely?
Not really - somebody spoiled the end of Sixth Sense for me with that exact same justification. Just because it's out doesn't mean I've seen it!
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Simon Challands Message #109792, posted by SimonC at 15:42, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109791
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First part - valid criticisms given above, but it felt more like Red Dwarf than the rest. The other two episodes were far too self-aware, and whilst the Blade Runner stuff was mildly amusing there didn't seem to be any actual point to it.
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Mark Message #109793, posted by Mark76 at 16:48, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109790
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That's where spoiler tags (yes they do exist) come in handy.
They do?
Spoiler
Really?
shock

Yeah, but the only place I've ever seen the code used is www.doctorwhoforum.com
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Andrew Message #109794, posted by andrew at 19:49, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109793
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Any guesses why Rimmer was not the "alive" Rimmer from series 8?
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Jason Togneri Message #109795, posted by filecore at 22:00, 14/4/2009, in reply to message #109793

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They do?
Spoiler
Really?
shock
Yeah, but the only place I've ever seen the code used is doctorwhoforum.com
Nah, I've seen it on use on many forums. I'm sure it's probably (at least, by now) standard on many phpBB forums, or at least an easily-accessible plugin. Damn you TIB for having non-generic forum software.
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James Lampard Message #109796, posted by Lampi at 12:30, 15/4/2009, in reply to message #109794
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Any guesses why Rimmer was not the "alive" Rimmer from series 8?
Lazy writers who have contempt for the viewer?
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Richard Goodwin Message #109797, posted by rich at 13:48, 15/4/2009, in reply to message #109795
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They do?
Spoiler
Really?
shock
Yeah, but the only place I've ever seen the code used is doctorwhoforum.com
Nah, I've seen it on use on many forums. I'm sure it's probably (at least, by now) standard on many phpBB forums, or at least an easily-accessible plugin. Damn you TIB for having non-generic forum software.
I thought about putting them in many a time, but I couldn't think of a proper way to implement them that would work properly on Fresco, Netsurf et al. (no CSS in Fresco, no Javascript in Netsurf). I even thought about black-on-black invis-o-text for a while, but for some reason even that wouldn't work (I think some browsers didn't redraw the colours properly when you selected text, or couldn't select text properly, or something).
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Phil Mellor Message #109798, posted by monkeyson2 at 14:58, 15/4/2009, in reply to message #109797
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I thought about putting them in many a time, but I couldn't think of a proper way to implement them that would work properly on Fresco, Netsurf et al. (no CSS in Fresco, no Javascript in Netsurf).
It would have to be server side.

If any messages on the page have spoilers, replace the text with "**** SPOILERS ****", and display a link somewhere to the same URL with an additional query string parameter that disables the replacement.
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Peter Howkins Message #109846, posted by flibble at 16:35, 20/4/2009, in reply to message #109767
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Was the spoiler that it wasn't very good?
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Richard Goodwin Message #109855, posted by rich at 07:51, 22/4/2009, in reply to message #109798
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I thought about putting them in many a time, but I couldn't think of a proper way to implement them that would work properly on Fresco, Netsurf et al. (no CSS in Fresco, no Javascript in Netsurf).
It would have to be server side.

If any messages on the page have spoilers, replace the text with "**** SPOILERS ****", and display a link somewhere to the same URL with an additional query string parameter that disables the replacement.
Bleh.

Presumably you'd either have to have the page revealing all spoilers[*], or have serial numbers built in to go to multiple different "pages" to reveal individual spoilers. But a nasty kludgey idea either way, compared to just manipulating the css display property.


* Although admittedly that's fairly similar to some code I've been messing with recently - caching blog posts to flat files, you have to strip out contextual links (e.g. log in/log out) before writing the cached version out. Mine replaces them with a message warning people, and a link to a proper, uncached version of the page (which assumes most people just want to read the content and don't care about these links).

Of course all four versions - to view the page in whatever state the admin decides, to generate the cached version, to view the uncached version, and to delete the cached version - are the same page called slightly differently (very differently, with .htaccess magic). And the make- or delete-cache versions don't actually display anything, triggered by an AJAXy contextual button and just returning an OK status.

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Richard Goodwin Message #109856, posted by rich at 08:02, 22/4/2009, in reply to message #109846
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Was the spoiler that it wasn't very good?
The first episode was quite good (production values were surprisingly good) but sorely missing the laugh track: having once seen M*A*S*H where the BBC had forgotten to remove the American canned laughter track, and finding it bloody awful, this seems almost an odd thing to say. A proper studio audience laugh track though, that can really add to a comedy, instead of jokes just tumbling into the vacuum of space.

It ended really abruptly, like they'd filmed this as one big film and chopped it into three.

Then it got a bit silly in the second episode and I switched off. It was basically a rip-off of the idea behind the League of Gentlemen movie[*], although they go on to "homage" Bladerunner a lot apparently. I did see the eye designer chap during channel surfing.

I've got them saved on my PVR, but I'm not that fussed about finishing it.

* Note: *not* LXG, that didn't have any ideas
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Jason Togneri Message #109857, posted by filecore at 08:43, 22/4/2009, in reply to message #109856

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I've got them saved on my PVR, but I'm not that fussed about finishing it.
I've still not gotten around to watching them, but that's not exactly a resounding vote of confidence.
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Tony Haines Message #109858, posted by Loris at 09:32, 22/4/2009, in reply to message #109855
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It would have to be server side.

If any messages on the page have spoilers, replace the text with "**** SPOILERS ****", and display a link somewhere to the same URL with an additional query string parameter that disables the replacement.
You want multiple spoilers per page? You want Rot19.
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Richard Goodwin Message #110137, posted by rich at 14:11, 26/5/2009, in reply to message #109858
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It would have to be server side.

If any messages on the page have spoilers, replace the text with "**** SPOILERS ****", and display a link somewhere to the same URL with an additional query string parameter that disables the replacement.
You want multiple spoilers per page? You want Rot19.
As RISC OS browsers don't have plugins that allow for decoding, I'll stick to ROT26[*] encoding for now.

* It's similar to ROT13, but twice as secure wink
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Keith Kelly Message #110324, posted by Games at 00:11, 26/6/2009, in reply to message #109794
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Any guesses why Rimmer was not the "alive" Rimmer from series 8?

Probably the same reason that almost the entire crew has been killed and the Squid being in the Water Tank. They forgot several things that happened in the last couple of series before it and/or the writer could not be bothered to explain that the story went on for 10 years after the end of Series 8.

I thought it was quite good the way the story explained certain aspects, but there were a few missing explanations (such as Rimmer being a Hard-Light Hologram, I think).

Really need to re-watch it.
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Andrew Message #116608, posted by andrew at 12:32, 13/2/2011, in reply to message #110324
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1348939/Craig-Charles-confirms-Red-Dwarf-new-series.html
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John Hoare Message #116731, posted by moss at 21:20, 26/2/2011, in reply to message #116608

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An interview I've done with Nic Farey, founder of The Official Red Dwarf Fanclub (and Maxine Lehmann, an early team member):

http://www.ganymede.tv/indepth/the-beginning

It does include possibly the best answer I've ever had to an interview question.
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Simon Willcocks Message #116738, posted by Stoppers at 10:48, 27/2/2011, in reply to message #116731
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It does include possibly the best answer I've ever had to an interview question.
Which one?

"In other news, I went to jail a couple of times."?

Actually, I'd guess the penultimate question.

[Edited by Stoppers at 10:51, 27/2/2011]
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