Well, I think it is best to bitch before the site goes live, that way you don't look like a complete arse when the site does go live.

Waiting until it's finished and then b***hing about it doesn't make sense; if it was finished then there wouldn't be anything to b***h about, so b***hing would be unjustified. But at the moment the site is s***e, so therefore I b***h about it.

IMO there isn't much point uploading a site with all the images broken and most of the content unfinished - a single test page would have done if the site was that bad.

I especially 'like' the asylum download page, where he's blatently copied straight from a text file I wrote giving details about what was in what zip when I uploaded it all. But he's swapped the order round a bit, meaning that it doesn't make sense because the description of the full versions rely on the descriptions of the demos, which are now placed *after* the full versions on the page

Some of the stuff you've said comes across as needlessly unpleasant; and it's even worse because it wasn't the right time to bitch anyway! I wouldn't have minded a bitch about how long it has taken; but this all seems very, very unfair when I *said* it wasn't finished yet.

Quite possibly. The reason I uploaded it was that I didn't want you all to think I had only done one page. Believe it or not, it only needs 2/3 hours work doing on it; my stuff it always a mess until I tidy it all up. I shouldn't have uploaded it, you're right.

The reason that all the linking content isn't there is that I've had great trouble writing it, because I tried a few different styles. All of them seemed up their own arse, so in the end I decided to do it straight. Most of the sections need a paragraph or two adding to it. Which I was going to add. Oh, but well done for being unpleasant about the fact they aren't there, despite the fact I said the site *wasn't* ready yet.

However, this really takes the biscuit:

Well, I've lost all enthusiasm. Do it yourself. I'll upload Michael's scans+sprites. And you can think I'm over-reacting if you want; I don't care. But read back on the stuff you've written; you need to learn *when* to criticise people's stuff, and when you need to do so, do it with a modicum of tact.

It appears that this whole issue has come up due to a misunderstanding on my part, for which I wholeheartedly apologize.

I'm busy at the moment (trying to catch up on some uni-work - it's the last week before Christmas, and I'm way behind) - but if you want, I'll upload a proper version of the site tomorrow. Promise. And if it's not to your liking, or it's not there: I promise; I won't over-react, and I'll let you bitch all you want.

Sorry I went overboard; I'm a bit stressed at the moment, and kinda took it out on you

I've got a bit of work to do as well, but as soon as that's done I *will* make a nice WIMPy editor for Asylum

Looks great

Looking at how long this is taking me, you may well have had cause to completely slag off the version I had only done two hours work on.

Yeah, it was a bag of shite.

Yeah, it was a bag of shite.

DO THE SITE YOURSELF THENWAHHELPIAMWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHBWUIWUHW

Sorry, moss. It was a joke.

Any particular reason why you're using Argonets email thingy when PHP has a mail sending function? (Unsurprisingly called mail())

*has a thought*

Are you using the right form method? The argo script may only work if it's a post form, not a get one. I'll have a snoop round and see how it's meant to work.