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The Icon Bar: News and features: Peter Naulls - So long? and thanks for all the ports! [Updat
 

Peter Naulls - So long? and thanks for all the ports! [Updated^2]

Posted by Andrew Duffell on 00:57, 4/6/2005 | , , , , ,
 
Peter Naulls has declared on Usenet in response to several abusive postings that "I will [go away], and I'll take my website with me for a period of time. As well the considerable help I provide to these groups."

This comes after heated debate over his recent guidelines.

The move makes his ports no longer available, and potentially puts the Firefox project in jeporday.

A few weeks ago it was pointed out to us that Peter was no longer on the Drobe editorial team.

Update: riscos.info has now disappeared in whole, and redirects to a well known RISC OS news site.

Update^2 riscos.info has returned in full with the porting project and a new Firefox Pledge-o-meter. Peter has also announced that he is to leave the UK for the USA in the summer.

Link: ArcSite coverage
 

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Michael Stubbs Message #93652, posted at 09:13, 6/6/2005, in reply to message #93651
Unregistered user "All of which completely misses the point of course. Are you going to tell all the developers (and users) who've already left RISC OS to "get a thicker skin"? It's not surprising after places like TIB openly antagonising people that they no longer bother."

Yes. To make such a decision based on some comments by very, very few people who don't even constitute 1% of active users is out of all proportion.

Put it in perspective. You, me and Chris from Drobe (for arguments sake) could post some comments personally attacking 'druck'. He then says to the other 3000 people - "Sorry, I'm leaving RISC OS and taking my software with me because three people insulted me."

"Are you going to tell the handful of remaining developers the same message? That they have to sit there or ignore people who are being insulting, lazy or dishonest? They may well have far better things to do."

Yes. Such as running their business, programming, family life. Newsgroups are hardly pivitol in most people's lives.

"If Firefox is so important, then people other than just me should also be making a huge effort. It's not enough for hundreds of people to be appreciative, but have to suffer such users compounded by getting peanuts for your efforts."

I doubt that most users have the programming skills necessary to help with Firefox.

I understand that you are angry because of the insults. There is no argument... such comments are inappropriate for newsgroups. I've made personal comments in the past and regretted doing so (though not viscious or using foul language, I should add).

However, I just don't see that it is appropriate to base decisions on comments of such few people.

Furthermore, it's worth rememering that RISC OS users do not constitute a community. We do not live together, we do not know each other, we are simply users of a certain computer system. If someone wants to call you a tosser, then it's nothing to do with me, or the next user.

Anyway, I just thought it would be useful for you to consider the flipside of the coin.

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GuestX Message #93653, posted by guestx at 10:19, 6/6/2005, in reply to message #93652
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That the RISC OS scene would eventually burn up as a result of a Usenet etiquette flame-fest, can anyone really claim not to have seen it coming?
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Richard Goodwin Message #93654, posted by rich at 10:41, 6/6/2005, in reply to message #93653
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I stopped reading Usenet ages ago, having made an innocent suggestion and got flamed by Justin Fletcher (which should give some indication as to how long ago it was). Just don't use it - there are other ways to communicate.
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