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The Icon Bar: The Playpen: Where did it all go wrong?
 
  Where did it all go wrong?
  adrianl (01:33 1/5/2014)
  Stoppers (08:27 1/5/2014)
  thegman (01:44 5/5/2014)
  adrianl (00:31 20/6/2014)
 
Adrian Lees Message #123229, posted by adrianl at 01:33, 1/5/2014
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Emails - now defunct for most people, I guess - are now almost invariably from companies trying to pitch their wares, yet we still check them in the hope of some communication from friends. Personally I, and people I know, refuse to answer a landline for precisely the same reason.

Q: Is there a way to build a communications network that benefits its members? Does it require subscription to keep it alive, or is there another way?
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Simon Willcocks Message #123230, posted by Stoppers at 08:27, 1/5/2014, in reply to message #123229
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Emails - now defunct for most people, I guess - are now almost invariably from companies trying to pitch their wares, yet we still check them in the hope of some communication from friends. Personally I, and people I know, refuse to answer a landline for precisely the same reason.
I still use email (and the phone). They still work, and a few filters in my email reader highlight the messages from people I want to hear from. My email provider's spam filter works well, as well. Caller ID works well for landlines.
Q: Is there a way to build a communications network that benefits its members? Does it require subscription to keep it alive, or is there another way?
I'm not about to start giving my every thought to a commercial company like Facebook. Even WhatsApp, which was a good, paid for system has disappeared into their gravitational well.

Maybe a spam-/group- aware email protocol could work, so anyone can set up a server, which will only be allowed to pass on messages from addresses the receiver is willing to accept...
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Garry Message #123236, posted by thegman at 01:44, 5/5/2014, in reply to message #123229
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Emails - now defunct for most people, I guess - are now almost invariably from companies trying to pitch their wares, yet we still check them in the hope of some communication from friends. Personally I, and people I know, refuse to answer a landline for precisely the same reason.

Q: Is there a way to build a communications network that benefits its members? Does it require subscription to keep it alive, or is there another way?
Certainly not defunct for me. I could do my communications via FB, Twitter, WhatsApp, or whatever, or I can have it all in one place, my email. I generally don't answer my mobile phone at all, unless it's a known number, and I want to speak to that person.

Email can be improved upon, no question about it, but try getting people to use it. You could charge subscription, or you can do ads. Ads will likely not make you any money, and people won't pay a subscription, generally speaking.

If you can convince people that FB messaging is an acceptable alternative to email, then all hope is lost.

Best of luck in your efforts though.
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Adrian Lees Message #123260, posted by adrianl at 00:31, 20/6/2014, in reply to message #123229
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Machines fail, too often. There are people employed in supermarkets to keep the 'self-service' tills running. ATMs fail because they contain hardware they don't even need; they lack minimalism, and are built for short-term economy. I'm sick of it...I love technology, but it is so abused.
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