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ARM Domination |
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riscknight (13:01 5/7/2013)
filecore (13:48 5/7/2013)
CJE (12:54 6/7/2013)
trevj (14:52 23/7/2013)
filecore (17:07 23/7/2013)
trevj (00:44 24/7/2013)
Stoppers (13:31 24/7/2013)
CJE (14:33 24/7/2013)
filecore (15:27 24/7/2013)
Stoppers (20:25 24/7/2013)
VincceH (09:24 25/7/2013)
Stoppers (19:28 25/7/2013)
RobC (21:44 25/7/2013)
CJE (11:39 30/7/2013)
Zarchos (20:39 30/7/2013)
flibble (16:39 24/7/2013)
riscknight (18:17 24/7/2013)
filecore (20:48 24/7/2013)
riscknight (21:18 24/7/2013)
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riscknight |
Message #122471, posted by riscknight at 13:01, 5/7/2013 |
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Your thoughts and comments Gentlemen about the only "heart" that survived from the years we used our Acorn Computers for example and, still "beats" today even inside your Cell Phone, Tablet...
The ARM Processors.
Did any of you ever expected that about ARM Processors? What would you like to see in the future or believe the furure holds?
Thank You, My Kindest Regards And Always The Best To All Of You.
[Edited by riscknight at 13:13, 5/7/2013] |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #122472, posted by filecore at 13:48, 5/7/2013, in reply to message #122471 |
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I heard an awesome story once from Sophie (formerly Roger) Wilson, about her time in Acorn, developing the ARM architecture. The abridged version is that they were testing an early verion of the ARM processor, and they had it hooked up to their diagnostic systems, and started to parse instructions and run tests. Some time into this process, they noticed that nobody had actually plugged it into the mains power yet - it was drawing all its power from the peripherals bus! And thus the low-power ARM CPU was born, quite entirely by accident  |
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Chris Evans |
Message #122474, posted by CJE at 12:54, 6/7/2013, in reply to message #122472 |
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Employing the KISS (Keep it simple stupid) can have many benefits  Sunglasses as it is I reckon the fifth day of summer weather here! |
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Trevor Johnson |
Message #122500, posted by trevj at 14:52, 23/7/2013, in reply to message #122472 |
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Nice piece at techradar on Sophie's work! |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #122501, posted by filecore at 17:07, 23/7/2013, in reply to message #122500 |
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Nice piece at techradar on Sophie's work! Cripes!
"We'd be forever seeing something that we had no idea could be done with a machine that we'd developed - a case in point being David Braben's Elite. We could not believe that he got that into the machine."
I wonder how Ian Bell feels about that! |
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Trevor Johnson |
Message #122502, posted by trevj at 00:44, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122501 |
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I thought exactly that myself. I wonder if it's paraphrased or whether those were Sophie's words in full context. |
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Simon Willcocks |
Message #122503, posted by Stoppers at 13:31, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122500 |
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Nice piece at techradar on Sophie's work! "When we set the project up we had a slogan internally to remind us what we thought we were doing, and that was 'MIPS for the masses', i.e. lots of processing power for everybody. We were aiming at the mass market." (MIPS means Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stage, a RISC – or Reduced Instruction Set computer microarchitecture.) Did they really mean that, or Millions of Instructions Per Second? |
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Chris Evans |
Message #122504, posted by CJE at 14:33, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122503 |
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Nice piece at techradar on Sophie's work! "When we set the project up we had a slogan internally to remind us what we thought we were doing, and that was 'MIPS for the masses', i.e. lots of processing power for everybody. We were aiming at the mass market." (MIPS means Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stage, a RISC – or Reduced Instruction Set computer microarchitecture.) Did they really mean that, or Millions of Instructions Per Second?
Yes! From Wikipedia:
MIPS (originally an acronym for Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stages) is a reduced instruction set computer (RISC) instruction set architecture (ISA) developed by MIPS Technologies |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #122505, posted by filecore at 15:27, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122504 |
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It's common to see acronyms changing over time. RISC OS is pretty bad for them. ARM originally stood for "Acorn RISC Machines", but changed to "Advanced RISC Machines" when it was sold off. Either, way, it the R in ARM stands for RISC, which means that "ARM" actually stands for "Advanced Reduced Instruction Set Computer Machines".
When I was about nine or ten, I asked my father what SCSI stood for. He told me (and to this day I don't know if he was playing around or genuinely said it wrong) that it stood for "Small Computers SCSI Interface". That little logic bomb kept my mind in turmoil for ages, but it seemed perfectly in keeping with the acronym-within-an-acronym paradigm that I'd become accustomed to from the computer culture of the time.
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Peter Howkins |
Message #122506, posted by flibble at 16:39, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122503 |
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Nice piece at techradar on Sophie's work! "When we set the project up we had a slogan internally to remind us what we thought we were doing, and that was 'MIPS for the masses', i.e. lots of processing power for everybody. We were aiming at the mass market." (MIPS means Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stage, a RISC – or Reduced Instruction Set computer microarchitecture.) Did they really mean that, or Millions of Instructions Per Second?
They meant Millions of Instructions Per Second, as clarified in the bit 'lots of processing power for everyone'. |
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riscknight |
Message #122508, posted by riscknight at 18:17, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122506 |
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I truthfully wish I had the chance to meet a remarkable Lady like Sophie Wilson, but...
I own 2 SGI O2 Workstations with MIPS Processors ( 180 & 250Mhz ). Amazing "hardware". Always wanted to "play around" with benchmarks and other things I had on my mind when I bought them but, not enough time for me to do so. Risc/IYONIX PCs and programming consume most of time. |
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Simon Willcocks |
Message #122509, posted by Stoppers at 20:25, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122504 |
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Nice piece at techradar on Sophie's work! "When we set the project up we had a slogan internally to remind us what we thought we were doing, and that was 'MIPS for the masses', i.e. lots of processing power for everybody. We were aiming at the mass market." (MIPS means Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stage, a RISC – or Reduced Instruction Set computer microarchitecture.) Did they really mean that, or Millions of Instructions Per Second?
Yes! From Wikipedia:
MIPS (originally an acronym for Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stages) is a reduced instruction set computer (RISC) instruction set architecture (ISA) developed by MIPS Technologies
Also from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mips:
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* Million instructions per second, a measure of a computer's central processing unit performance
* MIPS architecture, a RISC instruction set family... Also, why would you advertise one of your competitor's products in your slogan? |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #122510, posted by filecore at 20:48, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122508 |
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I truthfully wish I had the chance to meet a remarkable Lady like Sophie Wilson, but... But what? I was present when she gave a wonderful presentation on the history of Acorn and ARM at Alt Party '09, and she also held an informal discussion group on science fiction literature. It was all quite enjoyable, and just goes to show that she does get out and talk to people. She was extremely nice in person. You've just got to keep an eye on where and when and make sure you don't miss it |
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riscknight |
Message #122511, posted by riscknight at 21:18, 24/7/2013, in reply to message #122510 |
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I truthfully wish I had the chance to meet a remarkable Lady like Sophie Wilson, but... But what? I was present when she gave a wonderful presentation on the history of Acorn and ARM at Alt Party '09, and she also held an informal discussion group on science fiction literature. It was all quite enjoyable, and just goes to show that she does get out and talk to people. She was extremely nice in person. You've just got to keep an eye on where and when and make sure you don't miss it
Jason you're right about keeping an eye on where and when...
I don't give up though to be honest if something means a lot to me.
t.y.
[Edited by riscknight at 21:24, 24/7/2013]
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VinceH |
Message #122512, posted by VincceH at 09:24, 25/7/2013, in reply to message #122509 |
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Also, why would you advertise one of your competitor's products in your slogan? It wasn't an advertising slogan. I've emphasised an important word:
"When we set the project up we had a slogan internally to remind us what we thought we were doing" |
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Simon Willcocks |
Message #122513, posted by Stoppers at 19:28, 25/7/2013, in reply to message #122512 |
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Also, why would you advertise one of your competitor's products in your slogan? It wasn't an advertising slogan. I've emphasised an important word:
"When we set the project up we had a slogan internally to remind us what we thought we were doing"
Yes, I read and understood that, and it might make sense for AMD to talk about 386's for the masses, but Acorn rejected the MIPS architecture in favour of their own, so the interpretation of "power for the masses", rather than "one of our competitor's products for the masses" seems more likely, to me.
Maybe someone can ask Ms. Wilson. |
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Robert Coleman |
Message #122514, posted by RobC at 21:44, 25/7/2013, in reply to message #122513 |
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Yes, I read and understood that, and it might make sense for AMD to talk about 386's for the masses, but Acorn rejected the MIPS architecture in favour of their own, so the interpretation of "power for the masses", rather than "one of our competitor's products for the masses" seems more likely, to me.
Maybe someone can ask Ms. Wilson. As has been said above, I think the "i.e. lots of processing power for everybody" bit makes it pretty clear. They meant "Million Instructions Per Second" rather than the MIPS architecture.
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Chris Evans |
Message #122515, posted by CJE at 11:39, 30/7/2013, in reply to message #122514 |
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As has been said above, I think the "i.e. lots of processing power for everybody" bit makes it pretty clear. They meant "Million Instructions Per Second" rather than the MIPS architecture. Yes on re-reading I'm sure your right and the Journalist and myself wrong. |
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Xavier Louis Tardy |
Message #122516, posted by Zarchos at 20:39, 30/7/2013, in reply to message #122515 |
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Well Chris, have you ever seen a journalist really knowing what he's talking about ? |
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