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Richard Goodwin |
Message #51423, posted by rich at 11:34, 17/2/2004, in reply to message #51416 |
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Bother. The one berty/eclipse game I've got - DarkWood - appears to be on CJE/4D's books: http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/4d/games/index.html  I always thought it was published by Argonet / Eclipse.
http://www.acorn-gaming.org.uk/index.php3?p=Reviews/Darkwood/index
I'm pretty sure it was. I know Dune II was sold to CJE, but I can't remember Darkwood being sold. As Tom (Berty) and Andrew Foyle are happy for it to go out as freeware, I think it should be OK - although I can't find my prerelease version 
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Peter Howkins |
Message #51425, posted by flibble at 11:48, 17/2/2004, in reply to message #51423 |
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I think I've got a copy of Ixion, if anyones interested.
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Phil Mellor |
Message #51426, posted by monkeyson2 at 11:56, 17/2/2004, in reply to message #51425 |
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We're interested. 
Why doesn't page 4 appear on the playpen thread list? |
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Peter Howkins |
Message #51428, posted by flibble at 11:57, 17/2/2004, in reply to message #51426 |
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ok, I'll dig it out at lunchtime, god bless the w4r3z d00dz.
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Jason Tribbeck |
Message #51430, posted by tribbles at 12:37, 17/2/2004, in reply to message #51416 |
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Bother. The one berty/eclipse game I've got - DarkWood - appears to be on CJE/4D's books: http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/4d/games/index.html I always thought it was published by Argonet / Eclipse.
CJE/4D bought the rights to various Argonet/Eclipse games a few years back - a detail that I wasn't aware of when I put Dune II on my web site... |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #51439, posted by rich at 14:39, 17/2/2004, in reply to message #51430 |
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CJE/4D bought the rights to various Argonet/Eclipse games a few years back - a detail that I wasn't aware of when I put Dune II on my web site... Something Andrew didn't tell me about when he said we could put any old Eclipse/Software 42 games on the website  . I'd better check.
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51442, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:16, 17/2/2004, in reply to message #51439 |
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Hmm. Just when I was planning on posting an Acorn Arcade news item asking for copies of the games  |
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Jason Tribbeck |
Message #51482, posted by tribbles at 00:49, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51430 |
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Actually, does anyone from CJE/4D read the playpen? (Sorry if I don't recognise you - it's late night, and I'm just wondering)...
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Jason Togneri |
Message #51499, posted by filecore at 11:52, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51391 |
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I've had a look through my old magazine disks and found the following demos What disks do you have? I have all the AU cover disks from, hmmm, 1991 iirc to about 1999 and a scattering of others (including Acorn Computing, AW and something else) and I'm sure I recall a LOT more demo games than that.
Heh, I always loved/hated that phrase, "Mega Diskasaurus".
Does anyone remember the disk from 1991/92/93 sometime which had a printable drawfile to cut out and make your own T-Rex? I still have that printout somewhere. I don't think I ever tried to build it though. I remember considering it at around the time Jurassic Park came out and the whole dinomania thing was on. Oh well. |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #51502, posted by monkeyson2 at 12:09, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51499 |
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Does anyone remember the disk from 1991/92/93 sometime which had a printable drawfile to cut out and make your own T-Rex? I still have that printout somewhere. I don't think I ever tried to build it though. I remember considering it at around the time Jurassic Park came out and the whole dinomania thing was on. Oh well. Yes. It was on an early AU cover disc. I made it! |
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Michael Drake |
Message #51523, posted by tlsa at 14:26, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51499 |
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What disks do you have? I have all the AU cover disks from, hmmm, 1991 iirc to about 1999 and a scattering of others (including Acorn Computing, AW and something else) and I'm sure I recall a LOT more demo games than that. I've got most AU ones between 1991 and when they stopped doing cover discs. I have a few missing as my dad reformatted some to use for something else at one point. But I think the ones I'm missing will be on the CDs. I don't have as many Acorn Computing or Archimedes World ones as we didn't subscribe to those.Heh, I always loved/hated that phrase, "Mega Diskasaurus". Heh. I just found it funny. I liked the Acorn Computing "MegaDisk" best.  |
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Peter Howkins |
Message #51528, posted by flibble at 15:00, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51426 |
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We're interested. Ok, adf Images of the 2 Ixion discs are uploaded to the iconbar webpages/temp/ dir.
It'll probably need someone with red squirrel to extract them to zips for non emulated RISC OS users to use
Sorry it took so long, I completely forgot yesterday.
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51529, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:02, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51528 |
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Ok, adf Images of the 2 Ixion discs are uploaded to the iconbar webpages/temp/ dir.
It'll probably need someone with red squirrel to extract them to zips for non emulated RISC OS users to use /me grabs them and gives them a whirl - cheers |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51534, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:14, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51529 |
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Whee, they work!
http://www.acornarcade.com/downloads/ixion.zip
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Have you any idea what the controls are? As far as I can tell P pauses, escape resets, F12 quits to desktop, and the mouse is used for everything else 
Or for that matter, do you have any idea what the aim of the game is?
But Woo! all the same
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51539, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:56, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51534 |
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Aha! F11 tells you what the keys are No way to control your character using the keyboard though |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #51542, posted by filecore at 16:06, 18/2/2004, in reply to message #51426 |
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Why doesn't page 4 appear on the playpen thread list? Still doesn't. Glad it's not just me though.
Heh, speaking of DuneII (which I have, from Eclipse or so it says), I have just completed its PC C&C-clone revamped version, Dune 2000 good fun. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51622, posted by Phlamethrower at 16:01, 19/2/2004, in reply to message #51534 |
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http://www.acornarcade.com/downloads/ixion.zip Eep, didn't realise the downloads page was automatically generated and would list Ixion!
http://www.acornarcade.com/downloads/
What kind of copyright message should I add to the archive then?
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I've removed the archive until the copyright notice can be added
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fwibbler |
Message #51709, posted by fwibbler at 16:37, 21/2/2004, in reply to message #51622 |
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I feel I should point out that both Darkwood and Ixion are sold by CJE micros.
Albeit for an exorbitant sum of money.
Sorry about that. |
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Peter Howkins |
Message #51801, posted by flibble at 18:37, 23/2/2004, in reply to message #51709 |
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I feel I should point out that both Darkwood and Ixion are sold by CJE micros.
Albeit for an exorbitant sum of money.
Sorry about that. Yes, CJE are still able to legally do that, though it would be most amusing if they couldn't.
I believe the whole point of this (uber) thread is to contact the Copyright owners and get their permission to redistribute, this has been done in the case of Ixion.
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51818, posted by Phlamethrower at 21:34, 23/2/2004, in reply to message #51801 |
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http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/misc/ixion.zip
Now with copyright notice and stuff, but not on Acorn Arcade yet since I want some budding volunteers to check which versions of RISC OS it works under. I have a feeling the version of the tracker module it's using is very old and broken, but haven't had a chance to check it out on a real machine yet. |
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Michael Drake |
Message #51823, posted by tlsa at 22:18, 23/2/2004, in reply to message #51818 |
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http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/misc/ixion.zip
Now with copyright notice and stuff, but not on Acorn Arcade yet since I want some budding volunteers to check which versions of RISC OS it works under. Seems to be working fine here. RISC OS 4.37, SA RiscPC. |
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Michael Drake |
Message #51825, posted by tlsa at 22:28, 23/2/2004, in reply to message #51823 |
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Seems to be working fine here. RISC OS 4.37, SA RiscPC. Hmm... The music is probably wrong, actually. In game it sounds totaly different to the Music files, as played by DigitalCD. In fact, in game, it sounds awful. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51826, posted by Phlamethrower at 22:45, 23/2/2004, in reply to message #51825 |
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Hmm... The music is probably wrong, actually. In game it sounds totaly different to the Music files, as played by DigitalCD. In fact, in game, it sounds awful. Yes, I suspected that could be a bit wrong. More weird windy noises than music
I'll track down a better music module...
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Actually, the title screen music works fine, which means that the ingame music probably is meant to be weird alien wind
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51908, posted by Phlamethrower at 19:42, 25/2/2004, in reply to message #51826 |
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Actually, the title screen music works fine, which means that the ingame music probably is meant to be weird alien wind ... which isn't actually ingame music at all, since there's no tracker file for it
Anyway ...
Yay! |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #51977, posted by monkeyson2 at 10:52, 26/2/2004, in reply to message #51908 |
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Yay! Yay! |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51984, posted by Phlamethrower at 11:32, 26/2/2004, in reply to message #51977 |
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Yay! Yay!
Hmm. So duplicate |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #51995, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:13, 26/2/2004, in reply to message #51984 |
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So, now that the cat's fully out of the bag, what games do we have the rights to?- Aries, published by Eclipse
A pack of four games including Hamsters. IIRC I have a review of it in a magazine somewhere, but don't immediately know what the other games were. Are they OK for release? - Cycloids, published by Eclipse
- DarkWood, published by Eclipse
monkeyson says he's got a copy of this, so we should be able to sort that one out easily enough. Dune II - rights were sold to CJE.- FRED, Published by Eclipse
Global Effect - port from another company- Hamsters, published by Eclipse
Ixion - already done James Pond 2: Robocod (Plus) - port from another company- Raw Power, published by Eclipse
- Wavelength, published by Eclipse
- Worldscape, published by Eclipse
Xenon 2 - port from another company- DinoSaw
This one's a bit tricky; Acorn Gaming don't list it as being published by Eclipse, so do we have the rights to it? According to Tom, all his games are owned by Imparo. - 2067 BC
Although advertised in DinoSaw PD, according to Acorn Gaming this game is published by Oregan. Anyone got any idea who wrote 2067 BC? Or feel like asking Oregan for it and any other old games?
Are there any other ones I've missed, or have blatently got wrong?
Of course there are also the free games by Tom - Gyrinus 2, Gyrinus 1 (assuming such a thing exists), Lemings, DinoSaw PD, etc. Providing links to these would be a good idea |
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Richard Goodwin |
Message #51997, posted by rich at 16:24, 26/2/2004, in reply to message #51995 |
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- DinoSaw
This one's a bit tricky; Acorn Gaming don't list it as being published by Eclipse, so do we have the rights to it? According to Tom, all his games are owned by Imparo.
Doesn't really matter (to meeeee!). Tom said he was happy for all his old games to go out freeware, so unless you can find someone with a better title to it, I'm pretty sure it's fair game.
Cor, all this rights stuff is giving me flashbacks to the Tetris program on BBC4. Do you think the Soviet State will threaten our lives if we get this wrong?
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Andrew |
Message #51999, posted by andrew at 16:35, 26/2/2004, in reply to message #51416 |
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Me too, I remember a pile of them at a Wakefield show ('97 iirc - good games year). It must have been bought by 4D. |
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Andrew |
Message #52000, posted by andrew at 16:38, 26/2/2004, in reply to message #51999 |
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Think I've missed about 10 posts somehow |
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